[BUGS] BUGS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 6

Wed May 21 13:30:30 EST 2008

Hello Sue,

You can also run macports in conjunction with netbsd's pkgsrc,
and then merely change your DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH and PATH as you
see fit. Macports is probably better, because a few of the upper
level apps in pkgsrc have trouble building. But, for simple
things like nmap, pcap drivers, vim, wget and friends, pkgsrc
is quite good if you like "hacking" and not hard to drive.

Pkgsrc will sit exclusively live in /usr/pkg, /usr/pkgsrc, and
/var/db/pkg. One choice that maybe a show-stopper though with
pkgsrc is that it *REQUIRES* a case sensitive file system
which under MacOS-X means UFS (horrendously slow and non-journaled
) or HFSx (case sense HFS) or (leopard only + lots of hacking)
ZFS. You need a separate partition with a case sense partition,
or a disk image you mount and store the files in there. Potentially
annoying if your running on a default install with case insense.
It will work happily with links to the relevant dir's and they're
existing elsewhere.

There's also another alternative which I'm not sure if it's
still maintained, Fink as andrew pointed out.

Regards, 
Al.

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> From: Sue Blake <bugger at welearn.com.au>
> Subject: [BUGS] Ports collections for MacOSX
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> There were a few different ports collections available for
> Mac OSX last time I looked. These let you install those little
> unix essentials and toys, like wget or a favourite text editor,
> lynx and so on, as the need arises. (Sure, some will just compile
> and run from source code, but some are more tricky, and the
> ports systems set them out in an orderly consistent manner.)
>
> Has anyone used them? Before downloading all the guff and
> remembering how to use the system, I'd like to know that I've
> made the best choice of ports system.
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> Regards,
> Sue
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> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:02:54 +1000
> From: Andrew Reilly <areilly at bigpond.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [BUGS] Ports collections for MacOSX
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> Hi Sue,
>
> On 21/05/2008, at 04:58, Sue Blake wrote:
>
>> Has anyone used them? Before downloading all the guff and
>> remembering how to use the system, I'd like to know that I've
>> made the best choice of ports system.
>
> I use macports (http://www.macports.org/), which feels quite a bit
> like FreeBSD ports, but uses TCL for it's infrastructure, rather than
> make.  It also hides a lot more of what's going on, but it generally
> seems to work.  I've got enough of GNOME installed so that I can run
> the pan news reader.  The nice thing about macports, as opposed to
> just installing the FreeBSD or NetBSD ports trees (both of which I've
> done in the past, and both have worked, with more or less tweaking
> (respectively) is that where it's possible or appropriate, the ports
> are configured to use native MacOS features, rather than X11/gnome/
> whatever.  So gvim on my system has a nice aqua GUI, and gnuplot uses
> an aqua renderer (which is not actually as good as the gnuplot+ X11
> renderer, which can do zooming...)
>
> If you prefer a more Linux flavour, then I believe that lots of linux/
> Mac folks use fink, which seems to be based on Debian's dpkg/apt
> system.  Can't imagine that that would be the case, though.
>
> If you prefer a more "Macintosh" experience, you can get a lot of the
> big-name packages pre-built as mac installers, through the Apple site: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/
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> Cheers,
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> Andrew
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