[BUGS] hardware changing time .. moving forward

jonathan michaels jlm at caamora.com.au
Wed Jan 30 08:09:48 EST 2008


On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 03:17:57PM +1100, Jerahmy Pocott wrote:
> 
> On 29/01/2008, at 2:08 PM, leon zadorin wrote:
> 
> > On Jan 26, 2008 2:21 PM, jonathan michaels <jlm at caamora.com.au> wrote:
> >> greetings all,
> >>
> >> i'm finally making a move in regards to teh hardware, so i have
> >> ben thinking about getting a laptop, though lately i cannot get
> >> past getting a toshiba but lately i have been thinking about
> >> getting an apple notebook, esp if there is one available with a
> >
> > my $.2 (may not apply no newer iBooks):
> > *) hardware - iBook G4
> > *) Currently running OpenBSD (before that - NetBSD and long ago Gentoo
> > and Ubuntu)
> > *) making the laptop go to sleep (e.g. zzz) is not possible or not as
> > simple as it sounds (due to differences in PC/Apple BIOS(less)ness) -
> > is this still the case btw with newer machines?
> 
> Apple PPC arch used OpenFirmware, however I believe the Intel Macs now  
> use EFI, neither of which are BIOS and both of which are better than  
> PC BIOS.. Since EFI is an Intel thing I imagine PC vendors will  
> eventually head in that direction as well, so support for it should be  
> fairly standard sooner or later.

this has been an interseting chat thanks guys .. its opened up
some old (closed) thoughts about things to do with 'hardware'

which has now lead me to this ... 

i had almost decided to go down teh amd route but given teh amd
64 bit things happening in -stable and sillingp over frrmo the
amd/64/whatever 'lists i alos read several other bsd 'lists  to
do with relevetn targets and it is starting to look like
perhaps the amd 64 bit cpu is perhaps not quite ready for bsd
prime time ??? laptop/desktop/server/whatever/???

i have been partial to teh intel zeon since it started as a
pentium pro (ok something like that) ... i had settled on teh
amd offering but now i'm not so sure which fork in teh road, is
it amd 64 bit or is it to be teh 64 bit zeon ??

i'd like to get into 64 bit sooner but am now confused as to
which architecture would be the most sutible for use with bsd
at least .. please  

which fork please .. amd/zeon and/or some thoughts as to why
one would be more suitble ?

if it is that one is not more 'suitable' then why is amd
seening this 'fallout', these problems as freebsd moves forward ? 

muchly appreciated

kind regards

jonathan

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