[BUGS] [MAILER-DAEMON at sparc5-85.johnvinton.com: Returned mail: Cannot send message within 5 days]

jonathan michaels jlm at caamora.com.au
Thu Jan 17 12:37:58 EST 2008


On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 11:29:19AM +1100, Callum Gibson wrote:
> On 17Jan08 11:11, jonathan michaels wrote:
> }yes, it was spam, a whole lot of foreign char garbage hat
> }sendmail could not translate into english, thats beside the
> }point. it was teh mailer-daemon 'wrapper' that it came in that
> }i was wondering about, do i reply to teh sender of teh 'this is
> }spam, don't send us spam' mailer-deamon mail, or are you saying
> }that the whole lot is a manufactured spam article and should
> }not be responded ?
> 
> I would guess so.
> 
> }that being teh case how, or is it possible to tell teh
> }difference between this kind of spam and the real article, a
> }mailer-deamon getting a spam article and sending it back to teh
> }apparent sender for reproof/chastisement and should i respond
> }to that with a 'it was not me' ??
> }
> }i'm concerned about ending up on some idiots blacklist because
> }s/he cannot tell the difference, or is 'trigger happy' as
> }regards this whole spam situation ???
> 
> Unless you are running an open relay, the original bounce didn't

as far as i can gather, there is a check for open relay servers
that i run every time i setup a new server/mailhost/nullhost
whatever its called and i make sure to check teh relay-domains,
etc. etc, what i'm saying is that i do my best to make sure
that its not an "open relay"

> originate from you and so you wouldn't be put on a blacklist.
> It's possible someone else's open relay was used to generate
> the bounce and spam the eventual recipients that way.

now it make sence to me .. ok i am a slow learner.

> Your choices are:
> a) ignore it;
> b) implement some sort of local spam filtering and ignore it.

i think i see a trend there, perhaps a plan, even.

sounds good ...

makes sence to me, i think i'll setup a stmpd/"stutter" trap
thingie to keep teh spam at bay, so to speak .. <grin>.

muchly appreciated, Callum, thank you.

much kind regards

jonathan

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