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    <p>My experience with these devices is that their wifi performance i
      woeful.</p>
    <p>- they are cheap</p>
    <p>- by design 1, as you cant 'hack' what you cant get a signal
      from.</p>
    <p>- by design 2, so that channel overlap is less of a problem in
      MDU's etc (flats, townhouses, etc)</p>
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    <p>Note; channel overlap may also be your problem. For 2.4ghz you
      want to use either 1, 6 or 11. If something else is on those
      channels ( or between them ) then performance may be impacted. If
      possible use 5ghz, again running on a free channel<br>
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    <p>If youre happy with the browsing speeds etc, and the other
      problems you mentioned you can live with, just disable the wifi
      and attach a stand alone wifi AP (tp-link again being a good
      option, whch you can flash with opewrt or other if you like)</p>
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    <p>You may also be able to get the netgear in to bridge mode, and
      then use your own firewall device (potentially a bsd)</p>
    <p>Its possible that the steps are similar to the Netgear CG3000's
      which are a similar device - steps are at
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://pfstore.com.au/blogs/guides/pfsense-on-optus-cable">https://pfstore.com.au/blogs/guides/pfsense-on-optus-cable</a></p>
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    <p>Dean</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/1/19 12:06 pm, Andrew Reilly
      wrote:<br>
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      <div class="">Yes, it's a Netgear.  Telstra call it something like
        "Gateway Max".  Looks a lot like this one: </div>
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href="https://www.netgear.com/service-providers/products/cable/gateways/C6300BD-Telstra.aspx"
          class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.netgear.com/service-providers/products/cable/gateways/C6300BD-Telstra.aspx</a> </div>
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      <div class="">Performance usually seems pretty decent.  Certainly
        for web browsing and what-not I've not experienced much in the
        way of issues.</div>
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      <div class="">"top" on the file server says that afpd is using
        about 1% of CPU, so that probably isn't the bottleneck...</div>
      <div class="">systat -vmstat says that the ZFS drives are doing
        about 70tps, averaging about 2-3 MB/s, and are 25-30% busy.  So
        unless they're doing lots of pointless seeking, I don't think
        they're the bottleneck either.  I'm inclined to blame the WiFi
        protocols, perhaps exacerbated by afpd.</div>
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      <div class="">Cheers,</div>
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            <div class="">On 25 Jan 2019, at 11:47, Dean Hamstead <<a
                href="mailto:dean@fragfest.com.au" class=""
                moz-do-not-send="true">dean@fragfest.com.au</a>>
              wrote:</div>
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              <div class="">ok youre on Telstra cable. Thats good
                actually.<br class="">
                <br class="">
                I assume that youre using the all in one cable modem +
                wifi ? Is it a netgear?<br class="">
                <br class="">
                <br class="">
                Dean<br class="">
                <br class="">
                On 25/1/19 10:59 am, Andrew Reilly wrote:<br class="">
                <blockquote type="cite" class="">Thanks for the
                  comments.  Just to clarify, I'm not yet on the NBN.
                   If they squeak my installation in before the 2020
                  line-in-the-sand I guess I'll be happy.  I'm in the
                  Telstra/Foxtel HFC footprint, and so will probably be
                  the last connected.  I'll lose a bit of download speed
                  (Bigpond HFC gets up to 120Mb/s on a good day) but I'm
                  really looking forward to the up-tick in upload speed
                  and reduced latency.  We'll see.  I'm afraid that the
                  fact that NBN has been "imminent" for the last five
                  years or so has rather held up enthusiasm for
                  experimenting with other configurations.  I came close
                  to running the modem in bridge mode and using a
                  third-party WiFi router when I discovered the IPSec
                  issue, but haven't, yet.  So IPv6 is something else to
                  look forward to?  IPv4-only on Bigpond cable.<br
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                  <br class="">
                  An experiment I could reasonably try, if it's still
                  going this evening, would be getting a USB-C ethernet
                  adaptor for the laptop and plugging it into the
                  switch.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  As an aside, that was some fairly spectacular breakage
                  of my original message by the BUGS mail forwarder!
                   I'm sorry for whatever it was that I did to upset it.
                   Looks as though it re-assembled Apple's soft-wrap
                  text into long lines, and then broke those at non-word
                  boundaries with explanation marks.  I've not seen that
                  happen before.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Cheers,<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Andrew Reilly<br class="">
                  E: <a href="mailto:areilly@bigpond.net.au" class=""
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                  M: +61-409-824-272<br class="">
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                  <blockquote type="cite" class="">On 25 Jan 2019, at
                    10:31, Dean Hamstead <<a
                      href="mailto:dean@fragfest.com.au" class=""
                      moz-do-not-send="true">dean@fragfest.com.au</a>>
                    wrote:<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Friends dont let friends run the ISP modem :)<br
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                    <br class="">
                    Also, realistically WiFi will run at about 50% of
                    its theoretical max speed.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Telstra's modems are notoriously terrible (as are
                    most big name ISP's who customize the firmware), but
                    on the plus side Telstra is now perhaps the only ISP
                    that does IPv6 on NBN and ADSL products (Internode
                    doesnt do it on products they are selling through
                    AAPT wholesale, like NBN-HFC and NBN-FTTC)<br
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                    <br class="">
                    If you don't use a phone service which Telstra
                    insists on providing via their crappy modem - you
                    can just replace it with something like a cheap
                    TP-Link. Which you can likely reload with OpenWRT or
                    similar. If youre using fttn then youll need to get
                    a vdsl modem (even just a 1 port dm200 from netgear,
                    in bridge mode).<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Or you could run a pfsense/opnsense appliance, or
                    roll your own via and bsd you like. For<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    I've not yet had the chance to get Telstra IPv6
                    running on a non-Telstra device though. Assuming
                    they are just using DHCPv6 (they just use DHCP for
                    ipv4) then it should just be a matter of providing
                    settings they will accept.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Dean<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    On 25/1/19 10:18 am, Harry Woodward-Clarke wrote:<br
                      class="">
                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">yeah - I would be
                      suspicious of the Telstra device. I should have
                      thought at least 20MB/s, and up to about 30MB/s
                      without too much effort.<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      Of course, to get the super-duper speeds, both the
                      Tx and Rx need to use multiple antennas (MIMO) -
                      hence why some of the fancy-schmancy Access Points
                      have all those antennas pointing every which way
                      :)<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      The may be some tweaks you can do in the T-device
                      (channel width, Tx power) but I suspect you are
                      stuck unless you put a "real" Wireless Access
                      Point in the mix.<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      .h<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 09:49, Andrew Reilly <<a
                        href="mailto:areilly@bigpond.net.au" class=""
                        moz-do-not-send="true">areilly@bigpond.net.au</a>>
                      wrote:<br class="">
                      Here's a group that just might have a few clues
                      for me.  Any suggestions gratefully accepted.<br
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                      <br class="">
                      I run a FreeBSD system at home as a file server.
                       Have done since maybe '92 or so, but of course
                      all of the moving parts and bits have changed over
                      time.  Today's version has a new-ish version-1
                      Ryzen motherboard with 32G RAM (which I've managed
                      to stop spontaneously freezing a couple of times a
                      week, over the break, by locking _all_ P-states
                      off except 0, in BIOS).  That is host to an NVME
                      SSD that holds root, /usr, /var, etc, and four 4T
                      Hitachi drives in RaidZ form for user data.  There
                      are two quota-limited ZFS volumes on there that I
                      use to TimeMachine backup the house's two macOS
                      systems.  Main network file service to the macs is
                      over the latest Samba, with all of the Unix and
                      Mac-friendly tweaks enabled, and that doesn't seem
                      to work too badly.  Not totally fluid (SMB
                      restrictions on file name characters bight every
                      so often, as do slightly weird file permissions)
                      but tolerable, and seemingly the only option
                      really supported by macOS these days.  TimeMachine
                      still!<br class="">
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                !<br class="">
                <blockquote type="cite" class="">  run!<br class="">
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                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">  s over AFP, so
                      NetAtalk is on there too.  That box is connected
                      to a switch over gigabit ethernet, as is my mac
                      desktop and a Telstra Netcomm
                      cable-modem-cum-wifi-router.  Hanging off the 5GHz
                      Wifi band at the moment is a brand new MacBook
                      Air, a replacement for my wife's dying old
                      MacBook.  It's on it's first boot, and is
                      attempting to restore from the last backup of the
                      MacBook, some 280G.  It claims that it will take
                      another 36 hours, at the current average pace of
                      2MB/s.  That seems low to me, by perhaps as much
                      as a factor of 60.  I've read that 5GHz WiFi is
                      supposed to manage 1300 Mb/s under good
                      conditions, and in this case the new laptop is
                      about eight feet from the WiFi router, in line of
                      sight.  Doesn't get much better than that.  Not
                      that there's much I can do about it now, but does
                      anyone have any thoughts about why the restore
                      performance should be so awful?  Could it be
                      bottlenecking on the laptop's APFS write speed?
                       Something pessimal about NetAtalk ove!<br
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                r !<br class="">
                <blockquote type="cite" class="">  WiF!<br class="">
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                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">  i?  A rubbish
                      network stack in the Telstra modem?  (Heaven knows
                      the user-interface and the firewall are rubbish.
                       The device drops all IPSec packets silently on
                      the ground.)<br class="">
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                      Cheers,<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      Andrew Reilly<br class="">
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