[BUGS] Hello

[Julian Noble]

I loved usenet...  a long time ago.
I have vague hopes that advancements in AI spam detection will solve 
this..  but suspect that to get the nuances right requires sentience. 
That's not a task I'd wish on any sentient being ;)

Open source alternatives such as discourse or jitsi might be worth 
looking into.
I'm inclined to steer well clear of discord.
(professionally I'm required to avoid it. If you have any clients in the 
defence industry then the tencent ownership is a showstopper)
The 'reds under the bed' thing aside - my nephew tried to get me to use 
discord, and the politest thing I can say about the UI is that it's an 
ill-considered mess of sheer derangement!

Cheers,
Julian

On 2022-05-22 1:48 pm, Andrew Reilly wrote:
> Usenet is still going, kind of.  I really liked it as a format and mechanism, but haven't actually run a client, and pointed it at a server for many years.
> It never recovered from the Endless September, and the last vestiges of signal-to-noise ratio disappeared under a tsunami of spam and machine-generated messages.  Turns out that free (as in lacking an identity mechanism or login process) access combined with no mechanism to filter spam or moderate conversations is not a good match to the modern age (well, there is a moderation mechanism, but it relies entirely on human volunteers).  We can't have nice things.
>
> Just like email, dragging the thread context around as quoted text seems ever-more archaic: that's something that the messaging system ought to be handling for us, and what forums and chat servers do now handle.  Discord seems to fill the usenet niche now, although it's another of the socials that I haven't bothered trying out.  Currently gaining some mass-media fame as the discussion forum of choice for right-wing terrorists and mass murderers.  I guess discord doesn't have its moderation story entirely sorted yet either.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew
>
>
>> On 22 May 2022, at 13:08 , Mr Andrew Sinclair <syncman0x at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> While on this subject, if the issue is hosting fees, I have two business
>> hosting accounts with VentraIP prepaid for the next two years; each with
>> 4GB ram and 5GB disk minimum. I have them for development purposes and a
>> not-for-profit mailing list or two is most certainly welcome there. Perhaps
>> it might be an opportunity for me to lessen my dependency on Google/Outlook
>> as I figure out how mail servers actually work?
>>
>> On the subject of the more popular medium, I wouldn't mind seeing a return
>> of the USENET style newsgroups which to me were the ideal platform for this
>> mailing list. What happened to this news protocol?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 11:25, matti k <matti.k at gwsit.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Oops I sent using an off list email account (not sure how it got
>>> approved, some nice moderator i guess)  so may have missed replies ...
>>>
>>> On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 10:51:00 +1100
>>> Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, 31 December 2021 at 13:11:51 +0800, Alastair Hogge wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, 30 December 2021 9:29:49 PM AWST matti k wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Hey Matti and *,
>>>>>
>>>>>> We are thinking about closing this down due to, well lack of
>>>>>> interest.
>>>>> Closing the mailing list?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it a good idea?
>>>>> Due to a lack of interest, perhaps. If it has become a burden, then
>>>>> kill it with fire :-D Maintaining something of no use is rather
>>>>> pointless tho.
>>>> I think this is more a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
>>>> Unless I'm missing something, maintaining a list costs effectively
>>>> nothing.  Maybe people might find us by it.
>>>>
>>> I think the issue is with mailman-2.x which requires work to migrate
>>> from
>>>
>>>
>>>
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