[BUGS] x11 & window managers

[jonathan michaels]

glenn,

On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 06:38:29AM +1100, Glenn wrote:
> Jonathan,
> How do you start X? Do you get a graphical login panel when you boot, eg xdm
> or kdm login panel?

oops, forgot to mention that .. i start using startx/.xinitrc
script combination.

> When my machine boots it presents a terminal login prompt and
> I log in. If I want to run X then I type startx on the
> command line. In my home directory is a file called .xinitrc
> and this contains the command to start the window manager
> which on my machine is icewm-session.

same but different, i use gnome-session to start mine

> If I want to change my window manager I would first install from 
> /usr/ports/x11-wm/fvwm2.

done that long time ago and now its one of teh first things i
install whenever i build a new system.  

> After the install is complete I would read the man page for the new window
> manager to find the appropriate command to start it then update my .xinitrc
> file with the command.

i have done that and as far as i can understand what i have
read i have done what is required, the forst time i started it
it used metacity and now it has set that in stone somewhere (i
cannot find the where) nore any reading of gnome-session alters
my ability to understand how to 'fix' the situation.

does anyone know how to fiddle gnome-session to kill off teh
old window manager and use a different window manager, as far
as i an understand this is where the issue starts and finishes.
 
> Regarding gnome and kde; I do not run gnome or kde desktops
> but I do have gnome and kde libaries installed because
> applications I use need them.

i use the "gnome/kde" desktop because for me it is the
easiest/least painfull way of getting a workable 'desktop'
that with a little 'mangling' will give me what i want, as
simple as it is.

maybe i should just find a fancy .fvwm2rc, somewhere and dump
this whole desktop idea it is getting too complicated for me to
navigate, follow the inner machinations ... grrr, computers, making life
easier, for whom ??
 
> Hope this helps.

thanks, Glenn, it has told me that i've not made any basic
mistakes.

much kind regards and appreciations.

jonathan

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